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A Pope and a Priest Deny HELL

Sep 5, 2020

In an article titled “What Pope Francis Can Say To The Non-Believers Of Europe” published in La Repubblica on March 15, 2015, Eugenio Scalfari brings back to surface some of the important ideas that “pope” Francis formulated in regards to the mystery of faith. Scalfari reminds us of some crucial moments during his past meetings with the illegitimately elected man, and proceeds to report both his own question and the pontiff’s answer:

And for those who have no faith? His answer is that ‘if one has loved others like oneself (possibly even a bit more than oneself) then the Father will welcome him/her. Faith helps but it is not the element of the one who judges, but it is life. Sin is part of life, repentance also is part of it. Regret, the sense of guilt and the desire of redemption, the abandonment of selfishness.’

We know that this statement, in itself, is filled with error and, therefore, is heresy in itself. We know that to love your neighbor like yourself is the second Commandment of Jesus Christ, which is possible to follow only when putting God first.

~ One of them, an expert in the law, tested him with this question: “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?” Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.” Matthew 22:35-39

This heresy is most grave, for it is impossible for the Father in Heaven to welcome a creature who does not recognize His only Begotten Son, Jesus Christ, as his Lord and Savior. This is the faith we must have and without which we shall perish in eternal fire, forever and ever.
After these few lines, the La Repubblica editor continues on by linking Bergoglio’s thread to the ‘animalistic nature’ of the selfish man, therefore appearing as if putting a personal spin to what Francis had just expressed.

The illegitimate pontiff proceeds with the following statement: “La fede aiuta ma non è quello l’elemento di chi giudica, è la vita.” This is a rather strange phrase, for it is grammatically incorrect in the Italian language. Literally translated it means “Faith helps but it is not the element of the one who judges, it is life”. How do we interpret such statement? And why the very editor of a newspaper like Repubblica did not notice and/or correct such improper and syntactically ambiguous statement? To us it is certainly on purpose, for nothing is ever a coincidence and confusion remains one of the most effective strategies when it comes to false prophets. In this case, what Bergoglio intends to say is that faith helps but it is not what determines a sentence. Rather, it is in how a person’s life is. This theory is false for it denies the primary importance of the mystery of faith in the process of salvation. If we pick just one of the many passages in Scriptures regarding this subject, it is evident that Bergoglio’s theory is absolutely heretical:

“The only thing that counts is faith working in love” ~ Galatians 5:6

Continuing along the reminders that the editor of La Repubblica highlights, we come across another statement which no Pope has ever declared since the beginnings of the foundation of Christ’s Mystical Body on earth. From the lowest levels of his blatant and boastful spiritual dementia, Jorge Mario Bergoglio dares to state, once again, his own blasphemous doctrine of Hell by answering Scalfari’s question “what happens to a lost soul” that lost its light because of selfishness, Francis answers with yet, another heresy of unprecedented gravity:

What happens to that lost soul? Will it be punished? And how? The response of Francis is distinct and clear: There is no punishment, but the annihilation of that soul. All the others will participate in the beatitude of living in the presence of the Father. The souls that are annihilated will not take part in that banquet; with the death of the body their journey is finished.’

On October 9,  2017 Eugeno Scalfari reiterated this false teaching of Pope Francis in an article titled “The Church That Fights Contemporary Narcissism“.  He wrote:

“Pope Francis, preceded in this by John XXIII and Paul VI, but with a more revolutionary force than ecclesial theology, has abolished the places where, after death, souls must go: Hell, Purgatory, Paradise. Two thousand years of theology have been based on this kind of afterlife, which even the Gospels confirm. However, it is with some attention to the theme of Grace – that is in part due to the letters of Saint Paul (to the Corinthians and the Romans) and partly even more so to Augustine of Hippo. All souls are endowed with Grace, and so they are born perfectly innocent and they remain so unless they take the path of evil. If they are aware of it and do not repent even at the moment of death, then they are condemned. Pope Francis, I repeat, has abolished the places of eternal dwelling in the afterlife of souls. The thesis held by him is that the souls dominated by evil and not repentant cease to exist while those who are redeemed from evil will be assumed into beatitude, contemplating God.

On March 29, 2018, Holy Thursday, in an article titled It Is an Honor to Be Called a Revolutionary, Scalfari again reported that Francis does not believe in Hell.  He asked Bergoglio, “What about the bad souls?”.  He writes that Pope Francis said “They are not punished, those who repent obtain the forgiveness of God and enter the rank of souls who contemplate him, but those who do not repent and cannot therefore be forgiven disappear. There is no hell, there is the disappearance of sinful souls.”


Over time, Pope Francis has worked even further to abolish true belief in Hell and the Final Judgement, working towards an “everyone gets saved” false doctrine with words such as these:

“No one can be condemned for ever, because that is not the logic of the Gospel!” – Amoris Laetitia – APRIL 8, 2016 – VATICAN

“Never fear the final judgment, because Christ will always be at our side.” – DECEMBER 11, 2013 – LA STAMPA

“The closing pages of the Bible show us the ultimate horizon of our journey as believers: the heavenly Jerusalem, the celestial Jerusalem. It is envisioned first of all as an immense tent, where God will welcome all mankind so as to dwell with them definitively.” – AUGUST 23, 2017 – VATICAN

“It is here that the great news of Christianity is found: a God who, in spite of being disappointed by our mistakes and our sins, does not go back on his word, does not stop, and above all does not avenge himself! Brothers and sisters, God does not avenge himself! God loves, he does not avenge himself, he waits for us to forgive us, to embrace us.” – OCTOBER 8, 2017 – VATICAN

“a Christian knows that in that same future there will be Christ’s return. No one knows when this will take place, but the thought that at the end of our history there will be Merciful Jesus suffices in order to have faith and not to curse life. Everything will be saved. Everything.” – OCTOBER 11, 2017 – VATICAN

We believe that all these quotes speak on their own and need no further explanation. We are only inserting one passage from the Gospel of Jesus Christ as to make sure that even those who are not very familiar with God’s Holy Word may see:

“The Son of Man will send his angels, and they will gather out of his kingdom all causes of sin and all law-breakers, and throw them into the fiery furnace. In that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. So it will be at the end of the age. The angels will come out and separate the evil from the righteous and throw them into the fiery furnace. In that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.” ~ Matthew 13:41-42, 49-50

POPE FRANCIS – Don’t Quote Me On That

FACT:  Neither ‘Pope Francis’ nor those speaking for him have ever vehemently denounced or emphatically denied his words as relayed by Scalfari or demanded a retraction or correction of any of these articles. 


Not that long ago we might remember that the Vatican had to pull the interviews from their website in October 2013, and more than once it has been suggested  that perhaps ‘pope Francis’ has been misquoted and misrepresented by Scalfari. Some ‘quotes’ which got the ‘Pope’ into trouble back in 2013 were:

‘The most serious of the evils that afflict the world these days are youth unemployment and the loneliness of the old’
‘Each of us has a vision of good and of evil. We have to encourage people to move towards what they think is good’
‘I believe in God, not in a Catholic God. There is no Catholic God’

Even after the controversy surrounding the Scalfari interviews, ‘Pope Francis’ himself insisted that these very interviews be published in a book titled Interviste e Conversazioni con i Giornalisti (Interviews and Conversations with Journalists) by the Vatican publishing house Libreria Editrice Vaticana. 

pope francis scalfariFrancis Insists on Interviews as Part of his Magisterium
In book form, all the controversial “recognized interviews of Pope Francis, published by L’Osservatore Romano, the newspaper of the Holy See and other newspapers” are to be issued.
With the release they are accorded special importance. The emphasis is on “recognized” interviews. The question of authenticity was previously highly controversial. A fortiori, since Eugenio Scalfari, doyen of the left-liberal journalism announced, he had even formulated the papal responses in the two interviews he had with Pope Francis.  The printing was done, however, with the explicit imprimatur of the Pope, says Scalfari. A real denial was never pronounced by the Vatican. Vatican spokesman Father Federico Lombardi danced on eggshells with his comments in connection to the publication of both Scalfari interviews, with which he on one hand, confirmed the content of the controversial Pope’s statements, but at the same time attempted a kind of distancing.
Not a few Catholics have denied so far, that the interviews were part of the papal Magisterium. Pope Francis seems to have always seen it differently. Since the Osservatore Romano has reprinted the interviews and even published them on the website of the Holy See as parts of the papal magisterium, but they were again withdrawn and re-released, there can hardly be any doubt, that  Pope Francis according to the collected output of  the Vatican publishing house of the statements, the form, the rapid and controversial doctrinal documents, indeed  indicates their  authenticity as statements of his Magisterium.
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In the eternal need of spin control with this ‘pope’, Father Thomas Rosica, of the Holy See Press Office, was quick to jump in once again and let it be known that the Pope’s words in Scalfari’s March 15, 2015 article are not ‘official texts’.  And the Vatican released this statement after the March 29, 2018 Scalfari article: “A recent meeting between Pope Francis and Italian journalist Eugenio Scalfari, 93, was a private meeting for the occasion of Easter, however without giving him any interview. What is reported by the author in today’s article is the result of his reconstruction, in which the literal words pronounced by the Pope are not quoted. No quotation of the aforementioned article must therefore be considered as a faithful transcription of the words of the Holy Father.”

Neither of the Vatican’s lawyerly statements even attempt to deny the substance of what was said (“there is no Hell“) by Pope Francis or offer any explanation other than the exact wording may not be perfectly precise and that his heretical statements are not to be considered “official”.

In May, 2015 – well after the controversial interviews were published – ‘Pope Francis’ stated that La Repubblica is the only newspaper he reads and he continues to grant interviews to the elderly man who allegedly doesn’t record or write anything down.  To date he has granted Scalfari interviews on September 24, 2013, July 13, 2014, November 1, 2015, November 7, 2016,  and July 8, 2017.


On November 1, 2015 La Repubblica reported in another article by Eugenio Scalfari that Pope Francis said the following in a telephone conversation with the journalist after the conclusion of the Synod on the Family:
‘POPE FRANCIS’: “The diverse opinion of the bishops is part of this modernity of the Church and of the diverse societies in which she operated, but the goal is the same, and for that which regards the admission of the divorced to the Sacraments, it confirms that this principle has been accepted by the Synod. This is bottom line result, the de facto appraisals are entrusted to the confessors, but at the end of faster or slower paths, all the divorced who ask will be admitted.

On November 2, 2015 Edward Pentin of the National Catholic Register reported that Vatican spokesman Father Federico Lombardi said this:
LOMBARDI: “As has already occurred in the past, Scalfari refers in quotes what the Pope supposedly told him, but many times it does not correspond to reality, since he does not record nor transcribe the exact words of the Pope, as he himself has said many times. So it is clear that what is being reported by him in the latest article about the divorced and remarried is in no way reliable and cannot be considered as the Pope’s thinking.
Pentin went on ‘Father Lombardi said he would not be issuing a statement about the matter as those who have “followed the preceding events and work in Italy know the way Scalfari writes and knows these things well.”’

Please notice that not once does the Vatican spokesman actually and honestly deny the words of Pope Francis but can only say that the quote “is in no way reliable and cannot be considered as the Pope’s thinking”
Why not just say Pope Francis never said this and demand an apology and retraction from La Repubblica?
Why the careful game of words?
Why the slippery maneuvers so often seen in politics and corporate PR?

Edward Pentin ends his NCR article by asking “Why does the Pope continue to speak to someone such as Scalfari, and discuss such sensitive subjects with him, when he knows he is unreliable but likely to report his words without reference to a recording or transcript?


It is also interesting to note that back on January 02, 2014 The National Catholic Reporter ran a story by Jimmy Akin titled ‘Don’t Fall for this Pope Francis Hoax‘ and one month later on February 04, 2014 issued a similar article titled ‘Did the Pope Really Say That? Probably Not’ by Eric Lyman. In these articles the authors expose a fake spoof site called The Diversity Chronicle that ran a satire piece on ‘Pope Francis’ which was then widely circulated. The fake news website made many outlandish false claims about ‘Pope Francis’, even including his call for a Third Vatican Council. One particular fake quote of ‘Pope Francis’ created by the satire website which the National Catholic Reporter lists was this:

FAKE ‘POPE’ QUOTE: ‘The church no longer believes in a literal hell where people suffer…This doctrine is incompatible with the infinite love of God. God is not a judge but a friend and a lover of humanity. God seeks not to condemn but only to embrace.
-Satire Website The Diversity Chronicle, 12/05/2013

Now, about one year later, we have the founder of Repubblica, a very real newspaper, attributing these words to the ‘Pope’:

REAL ‘POPE’ QUOTE:  ‘There is no punishment, but the annihilation of that soul. All the others will participate in the beatitude of living in the presence of the Father. The souls that are annihilated will not take part in that banquet; with the death of the body their journey is finished.
-La Repubblica, 03/15/2015

It is undeniably remarkable and extremely curious just how similar the fake quote from a satire website is to the real words of ‘Pope Francis’ in the La Reppublica article published on March 15, 2015.


Contrarily to what the Katholik Gestapo media wants us to believe, the entire La Repubblica article (just like all the previous interviews between Scalfari and Francis) is a cunning and well-plotted tool for a multi-layered deceit created by Jorge Mario Bergoglio, Eugenio Scalfari and the masonic organizations behind them:

1) Francis spreads his true religious views by mixing evolutionary science, communism, humanism and relativism camouflaged by an overabundance of gratuitous mercy and overly simplistic Catholic-sounding catch phrases – all in a religious broth for all tastes.
2) Since Eugenio Scalfari, whom is an atheist, is a great supporter of all the above mentioned approaches, he is being wrongly blamed for changing the words of the pontiff, so unbelievably non-Catholic they seem to the faithful.
3) Little that the naive faithful know, the two have planned these free-masonic triumphant interviews all along; and because of Francis’ choice to have all three interviews published in a book, we know that he is in total agreement with all the quotes contained within them and credited to his name.
4) How were the interviews to be executed according to their plot? It was decreed that all people should believe that these interviews shall be (falsely) paraphrased. Therefore, since the interviewer was not to write down (or record) the pope’s answers word by word, he was to be accused of inserting his own words. In addition, Scalfari was to add some of his own personal opinions in the introduction and between questions so as to give the interview a sense of a “novelistic” story written with a specific personal point of view. But this is part of the trick.
5) The corrupt Catholic media of masonic propaganda to which Scalfari belongs (the Katholik Gestapo media) will stage the attacks on Scalfari. Yet, not one word against him will ever be said directly by the allegedly misquoted (and only involved) party: “pope” Bergoglio.
He will remain humbly above this “gossiping mediatic chaos” through his silent approval, since unless denied, one’s statements will automatically be approved by the same author.
6) The KGB’s (Katholik Gestapo of Bergoglio)  hired “online hateful defenders” will then blame Scalfari as well (for allegedly having invented the entire interview) and will also accuse us as the unmerciful accusers who have no proof of these interviews to be real. And, of course, what we declare to instead be false is, to them, completely real.
7) If this were to be true, then why would Bergoglio ever go back to the same alleged ‘liar’ who caused so much stir to begin with? And why would Bergoglio insist the interviews be included in a book?  And why wouldn’t Bergoglio strongly condemn the false representation and demand a retraction?
8) Because what you read is what Bergoglio truly said, and the deceit works perfectly as they easily obtained the result they wished for.



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